Know In Part Podcast

Jonah: Wrap Up: KiP - Episode 117

• KnowInPart • Season 6 • Episode 5

Share episode

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 1:11:18

The KnowInPart Podcast team concludes this season by reflecting on their newfound insights and the profound influence of the book of Jonah on their perspectives.

Watch us on Youtube
Follow us on Instagram @knowinpartpodcast
Send us a Tweet

Thanks for listening. God bless you.

SPEAKER_00

What's up, Kid? What up, what up, what up? Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Knowing Part Podcast. AKA Kip. Our our Bible study podcast. Our Christian podcast. Ralph's tired and he's yawning. Long day. Long day, Ralph.

SPEAKER_01

Long day. Super long day. Super long week.

SPEAKER_00

So this is our wrap-up episode. We just went through the book of Jonah the past few weeks. You know, we like to come together and just discuss it real quick. You know, how it spoke to us and just share.

SPEAKER_05

Thank you for taking this journey through Jonah with us. Yeah, man. Appreciate you guys, man.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Definitely. Um B, I understand Jonah B. Going into this. I've been through Jonah already. Like we went through we went through Jonah with Pastor Richie in the um the the the college course. And that was a blessing. Because you know, Pastor Richie, he's he's a teacher. And I got a lot from that. But going through it again just by myself, like, and kind of having like the Holy Spirit as my teacher. You know, it was different. And um just so many things jumped out to me, you know. But just just, you know, before the last episode with chapter four, the Holy Spirit like was just dealing with me, like, yo, bruh, you, you, you was Jonah, man. Like, that's why I kind of I felt like that's why he kind of left it with that question mark. Like, you know, whoever in your life that you have a problem forgiving. I think that's the biggest thing with with with unbelievers and believers. You know, you'll have a believer who, you know, he's strong in the Lord. You you could be doing a lot of things for the Lord. You know, you could be serving, but there's always that unforgiveness. You know, you always have somebody in your life. And I think relationships is just so difficult to navigate through. You know, relationships is the center of our life. You know, our relationship with God is number one, but then what comes second is the relationship we have with one another. And that's what the the Lord said, you know, you with those two, you can hang the whole law on. You know, the love that you have for um, you know, love the love the Lord your God with all your heart, your mind, your soul, and love your neighbor, you know, as yourself. And you know, this everything that we we are, it it revolves around relationships. You understand what I'm saying? So you the the um the the vertical could be good, you know, you and God, but that ho horizontal, there's always a problem there. You know, and it and right now you could be in a situation where it could be a co-worker, it could be a neighbor, it could be anybody, it could be, you know, a political party. This there's something where you have a problem with somebody else. And when the when the Lord God extends that mercy and that grace upon them, are you gonna have the same heart? Are you gonna agree with God? Because that's what Jonah's problem was. The Lord's heart towards the Ninevites was grace, mercy, I'm gonna save them. He didn't want to agree with God. He didn't want to get on the same page as God, you know, and are you gonna get on the same page as God? Because if judgment was there, you would have been front and center. Sword would have been in hand, you would have been you heard up, you would have been pulling the lever for the guillotine on the Assyrians, right? If it was judgment, but when it came to grace and mercy, he was like, nah, I'm not gonna get on board. And that revealed who he is, and it reveals who we are. If the Lord extends mercy and grace on somebody's life where you see their life changing, you see them saved, just because you knew them in the past or what they've done to you, are you gonna extend that same and grace and mercy? Are you gonna love them like the Lord loved them? And I think that's the struggle we have as people is the horizontal. There's always a problem with somebody. We always got a problem with somebody.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm I'm hearing like the heart of God, um, God revealing himself in that book, it being the same, right? Like we read back in Genesis 12, 3, what he told Moses, like the whole plan, right? Um, him revealing his heart towards a group of people that uh Jonah didn't agree with, he didn't like, he hated. So God's heart revealing our hearts to Jonah's heart. And I guess the sanctification part would be us aligning, seeing these things, right? The light of God shining, shining on these areas in our lives that needs attention, that needs to get worked on. Um and you know, aligning our hearts with God's and it obviously it's the work of the Holy Spirit, right? So the beginning of that is is confessing it and asking for help. You know what I'm saying? So one thing I want to bring out is that I noticed this time reading it is the Lord used Jonah despite his reluctance to see the Ninevites get saved. Yeah, like he still did it, he didn't agree with it, but he still went out and did it. And that's that was interesting to me.

SPEAKER_01

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was that was something else that that stood out.

SPEAKER_00

So my question is So he went I'm gonna say it right. He went through the motion, right?

SPEAKER_01

That's what I want to say. Like, is going through the motions. Does that count? Would that count for Jonah? Because he was obedient. It wasn't like he was being disobedient, he was obedient, but his heart wasn't in it. Right.

SPEAKER_00

So at first he was disobedient, and obviously the Lord chastened him to get him to the point where he was obedient because he realized, all right, he realized who God is, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. And you almost killed me, man.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, God, you ready to kill me for this, yeah. Like, I'm not gonna win this fight with you, God. Right, right. I'm gonna do what you told me to do, but he still did not agree with it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. So is that gonna so the work that he put in here, is that gonna be Hayward stubble?

SPEAKER_01

That's that's my question. That's the question. When I read it last week, that's what I was thinking. I was like, yo, this guy was reluctant the whole time. Does it count?

SPEAKER_05

Because it's the heart behind what you do, right? Right. Like if you're doing if you're preaching the word so that you can have a million followers on social media, or are you preaching the word so that you can save people for the Lord? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Like, I I went I wouldn't put it like that with Jonah.

SPEAKER_00

It was It's like the Lord telling you to do something, right? Right, and at first you're like, I don't want to do it. Right. He throws the win at you, right? And then you say, Okay, I'm gonna do it, but I don't agree with you. So I'm doing it reluctantly. I'm not doing it, and with my heart is still like Jonah's heart still wasn't aligned to God's heart with that, but he still did it, and the Lord still used that to bless the people.

SPEAKER_03

I got a I got a scripture verse for that. Um Philippians 115 says, Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill. The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains, but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached, and in this I rejoice. So explain that. So, I mean, he's like, Yeah, you may be doing it out of pretense, out of lies, but he's like, But Paul's saying, yo, I don't care, Christ is being preached. Right. Whether it's out of selfish ambition, whether it is for whatever means strife, he's like, Christ is being preached.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. So the reason that's important is because God's gonna use it regardless. That's right. Yeah, we know that. Whether or not you get um, you know, whether or not the Lord gives you something for it when we step into eternity is the question that's a good idea. Yeah, that's what that's what like yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_01

How does the Lord look at it towards you? It's probably wood, hair, and stubble.

SPEAKER_00

That's what we're doing. So I see it as like that, that Nineveh revival, that was the power of God. Yes, all day, yeah. Completely the power of God, despite of the person, and we saw that on the ship, right? And we saw that in Nineveh, and this guy he was reluctant. So imagine, you know, when you're not, you don't feel like doing something. That's what I'm saying. He was preaching, he was probably, you know, and I obviously I'm totally speculating, but he had that attitude on him, and we saw that even afterwards. Yo, kill me. You saw how he threw this tantrum, he was just wasn't with it. So I'm sure that showed in how he he he proclaimed that message. He proclaimed what the Lord told him, but there was an attitude behind it because he wasn't with it. But the Lord still used it.

SPEAKER_03

And that's the and that's the thing I just you know, I think it's always pointing back to who God is. And I think that's the whole thing. I think that's the message of the book. Like, you know what, no matter what, God is merciful and gracious. And you know, whether you're obedient or disobedient, God or if you're obedient and disobedient.

SPEAKER_00

Or if you're obedient.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. You see how you gotta say it right.

SPEAKER_00

Obedience. So his heart wasn't there, right? Yeah, but he went through the motions knowing God. Like, I see somebody that did not agree. So, in order for me to apply it to myself, there's things that God is gonna tell me, and I'm not gonna wanna do it, I'm not gonna agree, I'm not gonna be with it, but he might put me in a situation like that's what I'm saying. And then I still do it reluctantly with a reluctant heart.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And the Lord is still glorified in it. Yes. So again, and I'm looking at it like actually, I think that process, and I you mentioned it last week, Ralph, where Jonah did write the book. So that exercise, right? Maybe him actually doing it is that one step of faith in that direction.

SPEAKER_05

So I think about it like I'm not a father, but you think about like a father who tells his kid, go clean the room, and he doesn't want to do it, but he still does it. And the dad afterward is like, come on, we're gonna go get some ice cream. We're gonna go like the father still is gonna bless that child for doing it, even though his heart wasn't there. And part of me is thinking, you know, because of the fact because he could have continued to be disobedient to death, but he wasn't, you know. He eventually he was like, All right, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, and we don't really know his heart between almost dying and then seeing the Lord, the Lord's um anger relent, right? We don't really know his heart through that. I don't hear that. I don't hear that right, so between the the time of of him almost dying, and then you know the Lord spitting him out through the through the fish, and then where we see his anger, we don't we don't know his heart between that, right? What do you mean? When he's walking through the city saying, repent. When you say his heart towards what? Towards towards the Lord, towards his obedience, right? We don't see his heart towards that. Toward so what I'm trying to say is while he was doing the work that God wanted him to do, he could have been doing it with a heart that was was still obedient and not reluctant, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

No, I think he was obedient, right? Yeah, but he wasn't, but that it's it's kind of like that's why I always separate the the problem was this, you know, this unhealthy national pride, racism. That was the problem.

SPEAKER_05

But what I'm saying is not until he saw it happening where the Lord was showing mercy, maybe that could have renewed that anger.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I the reason I say he was like that throughout the whole time, because that's how the story started.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, I get that. But what I'm saying is I don't think he changed at all. No, no, but in the fish, there was something changed. Right? Something changed, which is why he wrote that whole chapter too, that that poet that poem about Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_00

I mentioned it in, you know, last week or the week before. It was Thanksgiving. So he was glad that God saved him. So it had nothing to do with the Ninevehes. His prayer had nothing to do with the Nineveh. He didn't even mention the Nineveh. And he didn't mention the commission that the Lord sent him on. He didn't say nothing about that. No, no, but he knew why he almost died.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. Right? Yeah. So the fact God was saving him because his heart repented. Right? Don't you think he had a repentant, repentant heart at that time?

SPEAKER_00

Not towards that issue.

SPEAKER_05

I think it was the whole situation.

SPEAKER_00

You know why? Because he said, I told you.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, that's because what I'm saying is I think seeing it happen might have reignited uh that initial disobedience.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're saying. I think he was always like that and he never changed. And the crazy thing is, we the story ends kind of like with us not knowing that part.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, it ends how it started. Exactly. Yeah, he's understanding with the same heart. But what I'm saying is at some point, I don't, that's the point we have we have that near-death experience where he's like, all right, Lord, I didn't want to be in your presence, but now please help me because I need your presence. I feel like something happened to him in that point. And the same thing, like with us as Christians, we go through seasons where we're like, all right, God, you're right. But then something happens where it brings us back to where we initially were. So all I'm saying is we don't know for sure where his heart was when he was walking through Nineveh preaching. We know he was obedient to what God told him, and there could have been a little bit of a change at that moment, but seeing the Lord's mercy might have reignited that hatred towards them is what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to give the dude a little bit of grace. You know what I'm saying? I'm not.

SPEAKER_00

He got enough from the Lord. He got saved from the bottom of the ocean. But again, it's it's this progressive um knowledge of God, learning about God, and dying a self. You know what I'm saying? And he had he had extensive knowledge of God, but his self-will was so strong. Like this guy was stubborn, he was willful, and when it came to that particular, you know, that particular thing, he was not relenting. He would not relent. Like he was hardcore till the end. And I, you know, I agree. I I believe obviously, you know, he possibly could have changed. I believe he did. Because the Lord will keep working on you or you'll die, he'll call you like, alright man, you'll come through, come home, man. I'm before it gets worse. Like your fam, you just causing chaos out here. Come up. You'll get it up here.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. But you know. I I love the whole part of the book where like what Ralph was just saying, it's like, but God. You know, like He's gonna do what He wants to do, regardless of us. And, you know, I do when I when I pray sometimes, I'm like, Lord, use me despite me. You know what I mean? Like despite the the stupidity that I that I that I bring to the table, use me. Because my heart is for souls. My heart is to see people love the Lord the way, to feel the His love the way I feel it. But I know I'm a sinner and I know that I mess up. And and this is what I see here in this book is that you have the entire book is long suffering of the Lord to the point where it got to the point where he was like, yo, this long suffering is about to run out. You know, repent, repent, repent. And then he uses, you know, a human, right? An imperfect human being to get his point across so that he can save people. And that I love it. And I love it because when I read scriptures and I when I read David, when I read about these individuals, Abraham, who are imperfect, but the Lord still uses them to get their point across. I don't see the the scripture as something reading about David's life and saying, I shouldn't do that. When I read the scriptures, I see look what God did despite that person. And that makes me love God even more. Right? And don't get me wrong, no, we shouldn't do what these individuals did. But I look at the big picture like God is gonna be God and He is gonna save regardless.

SPEAKER_00

So a lesson is get out your feelings.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I always be collecting myself, man.

SPEAKER_00

Do follow what the Lord says. Get out your feelings. And the thing is, obviously, Jonah didn't understand, he didn't have a deep understanding of God's universal love. He had it, he had an understanding of it towards him and his people, but that's not universal, that's exclusive. Right?

SPEAKER_05

So I think he did have an understanding of his universal love.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_05

Which is why he didn't want to do it, because he knew that the Lord was gonna save them. Yeah, but he wasn't with it. He wasn't with it, but he had an understanding. He knew that the Lord would save him, which is why if he if he if he thought the Lord was only gonna save Israel, he he would have gone, all right, Lord, I'll go do it.

SPEAKER_00

So so he had the knowledge of it, the head knowledge, but in his heart he only wanted him. So that's what I meant. Like he understood it, he understood it uh knowledge wise, knowledge irrationally, right, but the heart of it and him being able to he wasn't in agreement, him being able to look at others through that, right? He didn't do that. He only looked at that through to see his people, but he wouldn't apply that to other people, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So, because he was in his feelings, and you know, I I also think that um that not only when we talked about him being a typology of Christ for that moment of the you know the three days and three nights or whatever, but I also see him as a typology of just Israel altogether. Because, you know, Israel was chosen by God, and you mentioned that in the prior episode. Israel was chosen by God and and they were commissioned by God to be a light to the Gentiles, to show his love through the entire world, and that was their purpose in their commission. Then we saw their rebellion of not wanting to do that, their selfish nationalistic pride that is only for them. Um, and we see all that rebellion and um their disobedience until you know we see in you know the book of Romans and Paul being apostle to the Gentiles, and finally, you know, after the cross, that you're see some of this. But even you look at it today, you still see that same nationalistic pride. And the funny thing is, do you know that um that the that on Yom Kippur, this is the book that the Jews read?

SPEAKER_00

Jonah.

SPEAKER_03

Jonah. On Yom Kippur for you know, because that's the day that that day of atonement and repentance, and the greatest repentance that ever took place was with Nineveh. Wow. So they read this book, but then they still deal, you know what I'm saying? It's it's amazing to still see that that pride is still there.

SPEAKER_00

And not only that, blindness in part nationally, nationally, blindness has fallen on the nation of Israel until the time of the Gentiles fulfilled. Not saying that you wouldn't evangelize or you wouldn't share the gospel with a Jewish person, but if you're looking at it nationally, like they're going through something right now, they're on that time out where the blindness is on them as a nation.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, the Lord, like that's specifically from the Lord, he says, right? Yeah, yeah. But what does it say about uh us making them jealous?

SPEAKER_00

Um, so like when we went through it in Romans, Paul is like so it's kind of like how the Gentile nations were supposed to look at Israel and then be like, Oh, your God is blessing you. I want to be down with your God. Yeah, like I wanna reap the benefits, the blessings, the security from your God, and you're supposed to kind of entice them to come and follow Israel. Right? So he's like, now it's kind of reversed. Where you know the gospel has gone to the Gentiles, they're accepting it like the Ninevehites. Be like, you what? Jesus Christ died for your sins. Okay. I accept it. So now through us, right? And you even think about the commission of Jesus Christ, go out and make disciples of men. Like we're supposed to, the way we live our lives, we're supposed to shine our light so that the people that are not saved, including the nation of Israel, should look and be like, man, why are you so happy? Why are you so joyous? I want that. You have a light, you have something about you. Oh, it's Jesus Christ. So they get jealous. Oh, damn, we had that. You know what I'm saying? And we could now still get back into it. So that's I think that's what Paul was.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, like, and that's what I was thinking, but then like when we we talk about like his whole like the blindness, they can't technically be jealous if if the Lord has given them that blindness to not see it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

So that's why it's just a little bit on the No no, but I look at it like it's a national like it's a national blindness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. You have a lot of Jews for Jesus. That do give their hearts to the Lord as a it was those that he was referring to. You know, but you know, as a as a nation, as a people, they they don't believe.

SPEAKER_01

So it's like, okay, so let's say you you fighting with somebody, and the spirit tells you, yo, go apologize. I don't want to go apologize. You know, let's say husband and wife, brother and sister, whatever. Oh, go apologize. No, I don't want to go apologize. And then you go and apologize, but your heart is not in it. Does it count? That's how I'm looking at it. That's why I'm that's why I'm fighting with it, because I would think that would count.

SPEAKER_00

I I I think about it, I agree with you, because you doing that takes a level of humility.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I'm saying. That's that's that's the that's that's my that's where my my fight is with this. Like he was reluctant the whole time, he was mad the whole time, but he went and did it. Yeah, you know, he went and did it. And it's like that's how I that's how I look at it. Like, if you gotta go apologize to somebody that you you you you hurt, yeah, you know, or you got a problem with, and you don't want to do it. It's just taking everything out of you, like I don't want to do it, but the spirit's telling you to do it, and you go and do it. You know, it could be a dryer, dry apology, whatever. It's not it's not hard, you know, it's not full with the heart, but it's like yo, I did it because the spirit told me to do it. It's like a step. Yeah, and I feel like, you know, it might not, and that's my problem because I know that the heart is not in it all the way, but you are being obedient to what the spirit is telling you to do. You know what I mean? Just like the scriptures tells you, he says, draw near to me, and I will draw near unto you. Right. So that's that's how I'm feeling about this, and that's why I think at the end he finally does see it God's way because he was obedient. And I think eventually, you know, if he was just totally disobedient the whole time, then I'm like, you're not even trying to work with it. And I think that's why God worked with him. Even in chapter four. You know what I'm saying? Because he's like, yo, okay, you obedient. Now I'm gonna walk you down to why I did what I did. Because it's like, I was telling this to Ralph. I'm like, with like with Abraham, it was pre-judgment. He worked it out with Abraham about, you know, um, you know, his grace, yeah, you know, being righteous. I'm not gonna destroy the righteous with the wicked. With Jonah, it was post salvation. Like he didn't break anything down to Jonah. He was just like, go do it. Jonah knew who he was and all of that, but he didn't go through the emotions with Jonah. He was just like, go do it. Jonah's like, no. And then he was like, Oh, word works, works, storm, yo, shit, crazy, get thrown overboard. Like he he was like, uh, and then it's crazy because it says the word came to him again. Now he's like, all right, Jonah, go do it. That's it. I don't gotta break it down to you, just go do it. And then when Jonah finally was obedient to it, then the Lord was like, All right, chapter four. Let me let me deal with you. Why are you like that? Why are you angry? Why are you such and such? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

What I'm saying, so it's like the way the Lord was dealing with that when you compare that to Joe. Yeah, to get exposed to that.

SPEAKER_01

It's all post what the Lord did. It's post what the Lord is doing. Yeah, but the Lord still deals with him, and that's why I'm like, I think it's because of his obedience. Right. Yeah, his heart wasn't right, but the Lord was like, okay, you obedient. All right, well, I'm gonna work with you. Let's work on your heart now. Right. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

So, sorry, go ahead, bro.

SPEAKER_03

No, I was just gonna say, this is which is in direct contradistinction with um when God was dealing with Cain. Right. That's Cain is another one. So he came to him and started dealing with yo, let's have this conversation before you go in, before you go over the edge. Yeah. So I could get you to a point of obedience and then I can work on this hatred that you have. For your brother. But Cain was like, nah. Right. You know? And then you see, you know, the the difference where, you know, the lack of repentance than the lack of, you know, because he just went away.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm seeing something where right? We open up the book where the Lord told him something and he was trying to flee from the presence of the Lord. If you're fleeing from the presence of the Lord, he can't deal with you.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I see what you're saying. Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

Like, how are we gonna have a conversation?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00

When he finally came in obedience, although he did not agree with what the Lord wanted to do, he was still doing it, and he was in a place where I see what you're saying. You don't understand it, you don't like it, you're in your feelings, but I could now I could still deal with it. You're right, right. So to me, I'm getting it like there are things that the Lord might impress in our hearts to do that we don't like or we don't agree with. But if we take that step of faith, not understanding it, right, not feeling good about it, at least you're there so he could deal with you. He can't deal with you if you're trying to go.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

This is why I was telling you at the time of while he was walking through Nineveh, I feel like there may have been something changing in his heart. Because what you just described, like the Lord used that he was working at that time in his heart, and that's why I'm saying, like, that entire time, I I I don't think he was, I hate Nineveh but repent. I hate Nineveh but repent. I feel like maybe the Lord was working in him.

SPEAKER_00

No, and I I that's just the part I don't agree with. Yeah, I don't agree with that.

SPEAKER_01

Because I think it was just pure obedience.

SPEAKER_00

The part that he repented on was the stupid idea that I could flee from the presence of God because he says certain things in his prayer, like you're talking about you were still there when I was in the lowest, darkest point. So he says that, so now he's remembering, oh, you're omnipresent, there's no way I could go. And he was also thankful.

SPEAKER_05

But you're disconnecting that where he was from the reason why he got there, and saying, you know what I mean? Like if you was smashing, smashing, smashing, then one day you found yourself in a place where you you needed the Lord to heal you from a disease, and the Lord healed you, like you know why you had that disease, you know why the Lord had to come and rescue you and repenting at that moment, but that encompasses everything. But that doesn't mean there.

SPEAKER_00

No, that doesn't mean he stopped hating the Nino.

SPEAKER_05

That's why I'm saying there was a complete love for Nineveh.

SPEAKER_00

And and the reason I'm saying that is because of what he said.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, chapter five.

SPEAKER_00

You see, I told you that his attitude to me didn't change. The fact that he did it, so that's the question I'm asking. We're seeing somebody do something that they still don't agree with, and the Lord still used it. That's my point, right?

SPEAKER_05

So you're but yeah, I mean, we've been saying that, but so you think there was still complete hatred in his heart.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he said that's why verse 4 he says, but it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he became angry. He what displeased them that's the fact that they were sick, that they were sick. Exactly, right? Yeah, yeah. So he didn't want he didn't want that, and the Lord is like, no, why?

SPEAKER_05

So why wasn't he in a rage while he was walking through Nineveh?

SPEAKER_01

Because again, I think at that moment, and like you said, he was fleeing from God. That the the the everything that was happening to him is because he was trying to get away from the presence of God. Right?

SPEAKER_05

Well, I think it was because he was being disobedient.

SPEAKER_01

No, he was being disobedient, but the point is, is like, you know, he was it says it, he was trying to get away from the presence of God. And the thing about it is when you when you read his prayer, his whole prayer was, I'm gonna look towards your holy temple. Like, nah, I want your presence. Because he was in dire straits. Like he was done. He was he he realized, like, I can't, like you said, I can't run away from you, God. You're everywhere. That was the stupidest move I tried to do. Look, I almost died doing it. Thank you for saving me. That was the repentance.

SPEAKER_00

You're like, sorry, I dumbed out.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, I dumbed out and thought I could get away from it. Right. That was what he could do. That's what he repented for when he came to Nineveh. Nineveh, nah. He was like, This is where I stand, and I think chapter four lets you know his position there never changed. To the point where even the book ends, where we don't know. We was left with his position, I think.

SPEAKER_00

And the Lord is like, yo, fam, why are you angry? And he did a whole exercise using the plant, right? And then he's like, fam, he's trying to deal with them.

SPEAKER_05

See, but this is the reason why when he sees the repentance, what does he say there? No, I he says there it would be better for me to die. To die, yeah, right. So if he was in the bottom of the ocean, still thinking that, then he should have been like, I'm okay with dying, right?

SPEAKER_01

Because I don't want to no, he said it because if you read chapter four, that's why he kept, yo, you might just kill me. I'd rather die.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

He went right back to that.

SPEAKER_05

But his heart was not there when he was at the bottom of the ocean.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because he was in danger.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05

Right, that's right.

SPEAKER_00

So the reason that had nothing to do with Nineveh. We don't know that. And the reason we know, because we have his heart and his thoughts and his prayer. Yeah, it's chapter four.

SPEAKER_05

I I see that, but what I alright.

SPEAKER_00

So you're adding the point is you're adding that Nineveh was in there and he was repenting.

SPEAKER_05

I'm thinking that there was repentance at the bottom of the ocean for everything leading up to that point, which was his disobedience to the Lord and why he was being disobedient because of that hatred. It's the why part. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So Nineveh was, I don't believe Nineveh was involved. It's like because of that, because of chapter four.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, okay, so I'll give you a perfect example. Let's say you you're doing a hate crime, you get busted, you go into jail, all right, you're at court, you praying. Yo, everybody pray for me. Yo, I don't get, I don't get locked up. They're giving you 20 years for this hate crime. Whatever you did. Yo, pray, pray, pray. You fasting, you praying, you all in, yeah. You get to court. All right, man, you ain't gotta do no time. You totally innocent. That don't have nothing, you still hate those people. Yeah, you not, you not, you didn't pray because you mad because you sh you you did that hate crime. You prayed to get out of the jail situation. You was in jail, like you was facing 20 years, and the whole reason you was going so hard, everybody prayed for me. You was fasting, because you didn't want to go to jail. I get that part, but then but that don't just real quick, that don't have nothing to do, but you still hate those people. As soon as you got out of jail, you went right back to the the hate meeting. Yo, what we gonna do next? That's how it looked. You understand what I'm saying? It's like, yeah, family.

SPEAKER_05

But that person that was about to be locked up, then God tells them to go preach to the to the people that you did the hate crime with. Right. This is and then he goes and he does it. Right.

SPEAKER_01

But that didn't change the fact that he still hates the mic, man. That's what I said. That's the point. That he was obedient, and that's my thing. You're being obedient, but your heart is still not in it. That's overly not that was the question. Your heart is not in it, man.

SPEAKER_05

Listen, I see what you guys are saying. You know what I mean? But all he's trying to say is he's trying to. No, no, no, no, no, no. You know why?

SPEAKER_01

Because you know what it is, Edge can't separate. You just too real, man. You can't separate you doing something and your heart not in it. Because everything you do, your heart is in it. That's the kind of guy you are. So for you to fathom somebody doing something and they heart not in it, you like, how could you even like that can even happen?

SPEAKER_05

I get that part, but what I'm saying is when I see this dude repent. Of what? Of what? Of what I of everything that you know, you make a mistake like he like you know for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Tell me that's what he repented for. He said, You I'm about to die. You saved me from death. Read number two.

SPEAKER_05

Listen, I've we read the prayer. All I'm saying is that. Nineveh has nothing to do with it. So all I'm saying is that when he was walking through Nineveh, right, preaching, he was just being obedient. When the Lord he was being obedient. Of course he was.

SPEAKER_01

I hate you, but I hate you though. Yo, Nineveh, Jacob, listen, why would you be like judgment is coming in 40 days, but I hate you.

SPEAKER_05

So happens, but what happens when he says, I would rather die than see Nineveh? So then, all I'm saying is, why would he go ahead and be obedient? Because the Lord told him if there wasn't a little bit of a change in his heart.

SPEAKER_01

No, because he almost died by not being obedient.

SPEAKER_05

He saw that the Lord almost killed the Lord almost killed the He was like, Yo became the dude would rather die than see Nineveh. So why wouldn't he just stay at the bottom of that ocean? Because death if there was not some sort of change in his heart, because he knew why he was in the ocean was because he hated Nineveh. But as we So why not just be like, I'm done? Because we agree, we listen to it.

SPEAKER_00

We agree that there was a change in his heart, but it wasn't towards Nineveh. We don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was towards his obedience to God, right? I see what you're saying. I see what it is. We disagree. All right, um also, you know, reading this, I just, you know, again, see, I've read it so many times, but reading this, you know, I see the gospel in so many levels. Like, especially starting from chapter one, you know, where you know, um the men, you know, Jonah being a typology of Christ. You know, the way I the way I when I read it again, I'm like Jonah being a typology of Christ. To me, I look at the sea and like the storm is sin. You know, like when he was on that boat, it was like all these men was on that boat, and the first thing they do, they try to throw off the cargo to lighten up the shit. You understand what I'm saying? But that didn't appease the storm. That didn't appease God to stop this storm. And it was like Jonah, you know, he presented himself whether it was to, you know, because he he didn't want to see the Nineveh, you know, uh, you know, he'd rather die than preach to the Ninevehites, or whether it was, yo, to stop the storm. Whatever the reason was, the typology I seen was, you know, the works of those men, cargo, whatever they gave to the sea, it wasn't gonna stop the storm. It had to be a blood sacrifice. Like the like it had to be a person to get thrown into that water to stop the storm. You understand what I'm saying? And I'm looking at it like the storm was sin. You know, Christ had to be that sacrifice. Like no matter what, the bulls, the bulls and the calves wouldn't, you know, uh uh couldn't wipe away that sin. Couldn't appease God, it had to be a human being. And it's like, it's like the however the story worked out for on on Jonah's side, whatever the reason it was, but I'm looking at it as a typology where you know Jonah getting thrown into the water, it stopped the storm. So it was a person that had to get thrown in. It was like it had to be a blood sacrifice. The cargo wasn't gonna thing it, you know, stop the storm, and that's how I look at it.

SPEAKER_00

So everybody born into this world from the lineage of Adam has a storm resting on top of their head. The wrath of God.

SPEAKER_01

And what's even crazy is how I look at Jonah is as a first Adam and a second Adam. Like a last Adam, you know what I mean? It's like because of one man's disobedience, everybody was gonna die on that ship. You understand what I'm saying? But once he sacrificed himself, everybody survived. You know what I'm saying? And just to the point of that, and then as like I mentioned before, you know, he gets thrown into the water, you know, he appeased, like, you know, Christ, you know, he died for our sins, and him spending three days in the in the in the grave, same way Jonas spent three days into the belly. Then you get to the point of him being vomited up, that is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Then he goes to all nations because he was he resurrected, now all nations could be saved. That means it was appeased, you know. The the wrath of God was appeased, and all nations were saved. But just the typologies of Jesus Christ, not just like, and this is why, like when you said that, I was just like you in the beginning, where I was like, I only saw it with the three days in the belly of the well. But then when I'm reading it again, I'm like, nah, bruh. From that point of. And the crazy thing about it is when Jonah was like, throw me into the ocean, the men said, no, there's another way. They they was like, we're gonna do it with our works. We're gonna roll, we're gonna roll, we're gonna roll, we're gonna roll. And the storm, sin is still here. Sin, yo, the storm is still happening. It's not until they was like, all right, we gotta throw them over. And what hit even more is what Ralph said, where he was like, yo, don't put the innocent blood on us. But Jonah wasn't innocent. So that's what made me see that even that point was a typology of Jesus Christ. It's just not in the belly of the world, but there were so many instances. I think the Holy Spirit was because when you asked that question, that made, yo, it rocked me when you was like, yo, why he ain't just jump off? You know what I mean? And I was like, Yo, word. You was like, why he didn't just pray? And I'm like, yo, you right. That would have, you know, that made so much sense, but I think it happened that way, so that us looking back, right, would see the cross. To see the cross. To see the cross, to see all the typologies, the same. To see Jesus and Jonah.

SPEAKER_00

The story of Jonah.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Same thing with Ruth. You know what I mean? Ruth could have happened any other way, but it happened that way. And it's crazy. We said the same thing with Ruth. Like the Lord just, let me, I'm gonna pull out your story. You know what I mean? And I'm gonna put it in the book because it all is supposed to always center to the cross. The old testament is supposed to look forward, the new testament is supposed to, you know what I mean? It's supposed to be there, and we supposed to look back. So that's how I see Jonah. I'm like, Jonah, it wasn't just the three days in the fish. It was nah, it was more than that. It was from when he got on that boat, and just you know, him being disobedient, being Adam, you know, Adam, like like Paul said, because of one man's sin, everybody had to suffer. That's what happened with Jonah. He got on that boat, he was being disobedient, he got called out. All right, how we gonna appease it? Throw me over. Nah, we ain't gonna throw works. Man try to do works, different religions, different religions. Yeah, we're gonna get ourselves to God. Nope. It's not gonna stop the storm. The only way the storm is gonna stop is by blood sacrifice. Somebody got to get to them though.

SPEAKER_00

When you you can make croissants if you stretch the dough. Yo, man, no, no, no, no. No, what you're saying is actually true because, and I think that's an exercise that everybody should do. When you read it, look for Christ. In particular, what Christ was referenced was the three days. Yes, yes, yes for that. Yes, but the typologies that you guys are bringing out and seeing the overarching message of God from the beginning, it's it's like a treasure hunt in every book to see how it fits. And you know, we mentioned it, like these guys didn't realize what they were doing or what they were saying at the time and how it would play out. So the Lord is able to take these stories and show continually that's the same constant story all the time. So I totally agree. Yeah, so the the the statement that Christ made was for the three days. Yes, but the book of Jonah, the gospel story is in there. Jesus Christ is in there. All right, can you see it? Can you detect it? And the points that you brought out. Like I said, it doesn't have to be one for one, right? But it has the same arch. Oh, this is right, same pattern, same pattern, same pattern throughout all the books. All right, where's Jesus in this book? Where's Jesus in Ruth? Oh, is this this? They didn't know what they were their acts and their decisions would create this story arch of redemption, Jesus Christ. So yeah, no, I totally agree. And I and that's what it is.

SPEAKER_01

It's like this story has so much more, but I think the way the spirit writes it is he all the details that's given is the details necessary to point to the cross. That's right. You understand what I'm saying? And that's the that's the whole message of the Bible. It's always to point to the cross. And it's like um Chuck Missler kind of trained my mind to be like that. Just listening to a lot of Chuck Missler, he's always like, yo, yeah, there's always coding in there. This thing is supernatural. This the author is God, B. The author ain't no regular man. This is God who understands everything, who sees all, who's everywhere, and he wants to share that with you. But you gotta dig in a little deeper. Go ahead, Ann.

SPEAKER_05

Just real quick, I I don't mean to bring it all up again, but verse eight in chapter two, where it talks about those who regard worthless idols forsake their own mercy. And we said that his worthless idol was what? His hatred of his patriotism. So you don't think that that verse tells us that his heart was changed toward that?

SPEAKER_00

No, he's talking about the Gentiles.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he's talking about the Gentiles.

SPEAKER_00

He's being a hypocrite. He's pretty much saying this is like this spiritual pride. Right. Because he's saying those um, those who cling to vain idols leave behind. He's like, those people, they don't know you.

SPEAKER_05

Right. Like I know you, yeah. So he is almost this highlight. That those that doesn't encompass everyone, including him. No, the Gentiles. Yeah, it's the Gentiles. You don't, you but we talked about that worthless idol being his patriotist.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I mean we see that, but he doesn't see that in himself.

SPEAKER_05

You don't think he sees that?

SPEAKER_01

Nah, nah. That's why, that's why we we were we were looking at the four clears all. Yeah, because the thing is, we were that's why we point the reason we point it out, and is because we like, dog, you a hypocrite. Because you're sitting there looking at the Gentiles, like, yo, look at them, they they worshiping their idols. Look at my God, he saved me from the sea. That's how he's talking to God, like, yo, you saved me from death. The sea weeds was wrapped around my head. Yo, yo, God, you're so gracious. That's why I don't believe in idols, I believe in you. We see, like, your patriotism with the toxic, unhealthy. Yeah, baby. Because in chapter four, it comes out.

SPEAKER_00

This was the Lord, I'm glad I'm not like these other people, right? Right, yeah, yeah. The Pharisee, right? That's the Pharisee prayer that jumped out over here. That's why you could be like, Look, man, you you got a lot of work to do, Jonah. You know what I'm saying? I'm not like these wicked pagan said that in the New Testament. Somebody it was the Pharisee and Pharisees in that prayer. Yeah, that was like a little hint of that. Okay spiritual pride that he has.

SPEAKER_01

And I mean, I mean, he wasn't wrong. Like, it was that was the prayer he's supposed to pray, but us knowing him.

SPEAKER_00

The heart made it wrong.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Because we know his heart has been exposed to us later and four. We know, like, bruh, you're gonna say something like that when deep down inside that patriotism is your idol. You refuse. Even though you saw, you know, like you said, half a million people get saved, you still like, yo, I don't agree with it. And that's the thing, like, yo, our hearts getting aligned with God. I think that's what Jonah is about. Yeah, you know, yes, you could be you could do stuff in obedience, you could be obedient to what he's telling you to do, but is your heart aligned? Are you sincere and wanting to see people saved? Because, like you say, Ange, if you have the heart, it's gonna be way more fruitful. You understand what I'm saying? Like it could, like, like even I was telling Ralph, I was like, I think that's why the Lord was like, yo, I'm gonna give you eight, but I'm gonna give you eight words, B. So you can't, because I know how you feel. I'm not gonna give you this whole long because if I give you the halfway through the message, you might be, nah, man, I ain't gonna you just run again. You start, you take off all your clothes and you run into the ocean. So I'm gonna make it real simple. I did the bare minimum, dog. That's why God gave him the bare minimum. He probably walked through it with like 40 days. It was like 40 days. What? He's probably mumbling.

SPEAKER_00

It was like, what? He probably whispering it. We're joking.

SPEAKER_01

And just like, I'm gonna chill with Joni a little bit. It says yet 40 days, comma. I think he started with yet 40 days. He probably was like 40 days, what? And none of us shall be overthrown, man. And it was I think they have to ask him. He probably was like 40 days, 40 days, it was like 40 days, what? What are you 40 days? None of us gonna be overthrown.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, none of us gonna be sound like it's important. Let's come over here looking. This must be important, we can't hear you.

SPEAKER_01

I must have been something. Apologies. Young sir.

SPEAKER_03

What are you gonna talk about? What are you talking for? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00

I'm sorry, somebody That's how apologies happen.

SPEAKER_01

So don't trust trust me, he wasn't going in that hell in it at first, you know. But you know he probably had to build up.

SPEAKER_00

We crack at jokes, but to me, what stands out is the Lord honored it. And and what's the scripture that says the Lord require, he doesn't require sacrifice. Obedience. That's why I said what I said like yo, give me obedience. Samuels 15. And you don't have to have all of it together yourself. Right. Give me obedience and be at in a place where I can deal with you. And we saw he did that. Even afterwards, this guy went, set up his um, set up his his chair to look to see what was gonna happen. But you already saw the effects of the people. But like, it's almost like you're looking, hoping that they would reject it. But you was there and the Lord got a chance to deal with you. So that's that's actually something that jumped out at me that I was like, oh, I didn't see that before. And that's even better. Like, Lord, you deal with somebody that don't agree with you, and you want them to come to a place so that you could deal with them so that they could get because you're wrong. Yes, yeah, God is always right, yes, and he's like, All right, you at least you're over here, let's have this conversation, let's sit down, let's reason. Let's reason, let us reason you could align your heart to mine.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, and you know what, and that's one of the things that I do appreciate with Jonah is the is his straight up honesty. Yes, and that's the thing is that majority of people are not honest. He was honest enough to tell God, he's like, I know you. Yes, because you're passionate, you're loving, you're merciful, and I know you would, you know, uh um give them, grant them repentance. So you see, that's showing he was showing his heart that yo, I hate these guys, and like, and he was being totally honest and transparent with the Lord and allowing the Lord to deal with him, you know, and that's one of the biggest problems is that when people can't come to Christ is because they will not be honest with themselves and be honest with God and just come and just lay it bare and just lay it on the table. Yes, I am a sinner, I messed up, you know, and I need for so Joni was completely honest.

SPEAKER_01

Now that's that, yeah. Like I said, that's what I, you know, and I said that to you. I was like, there's not one point he wasn't honest, he was off. But he was honest all the way through, and I think God, he welcomes that. You understand what I'm saying? Because God is real, and that's what made me like even love this book even more. It showed who God was. That fourth chapter, I think I love I'm in love with that chapter because it's always about having this intimacy with God. Yeah, because I'm always having those, because I have those Jonah battles where I gotta work it out with him. Like, why did you want me to do that? Why do you want me to, you know what I mean? Like, Lord, explain it to me. You know what I mean? And you have this fight with the obedience. And God is so merciful, he's so loving that He He entertains that because that's what He always that's what He created you for. That's what He always wanted. You know what I'm saying? And that's what heaven is gonna be. It's gonna be this, there's no more barrier. It's face to face, like what Moses shared with him. Like even with Moses, when Moses was like, You're gonna wipe out the nation of Israel, you gotta kill me too. You know what I mean? And I'm like, how dare you, Moses?

SPEAKER_00

Spare them.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. And he was like, in my mind, I'm like, Moses, how dare you? You know what I mean? This is God, but God is like, nah, man, this is, you know, he'll deal with that, you know.

SPEAKER_00

So the crazy thing is it's like I'm I'm seeing this jump out at me and it blows my mind, right? Where you have somebody that's a man of God, um, he's disobedient and the Lord still deal with him. But we read in the scriptures, just seeing the consistency, the consistency of God. And like he never changed and he's the same. But we read in the scriptures where it says, while we were yet sinners, right? You know what I'm saying? It's like while we were his enemies, he still did the greatest thing for us by sacrificing his life. So then it's kind of like, oh, now this makes sense. Like you was for me, you did everything for me while I was your enemy. But it's still consistent that now that I am your son, even though there are things that are wrong with me, there are things that are in line, there are things that I need to get straight, you're still gonna have those pay that patience, that you know what I'm saying, you're gonna still have that grace towards me so I could get it right. I just have to be in that place of obedience. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. Because you do it when I was in the place of disobedience, disobedience, wrath, and da-da-da. So I'm looking at it, I'm like, oh yeah, you're consistent. God is the same. Right. You know what I'm saying? Which is just reassuring. So if you're consistent, that means your promises are consistent. The promises are the same. So that's why we could walk around with the joy of the Lord in our hearts, knowing that we have a future, we have a hope. You know, we have eternity.

SPEAKER_01

And it's like I the way I'm looking at it, it's like obedience, you could get you could get uh you could get that conversation, man. Like he got in four. Because disobedience, you're gonna get the storm, you're gonna get thrown in the sea, you gonna fish. And it's like what you you know, you and says it, like, yo, you know, you going through all that stuff. Like, you gotta go through all this stuff, but that's God still trying to get your attention. You know what I mean? But it could, it could have been an easier way. Like, he could have like four could have been done in one and you could have avoided the sea, you could have avoided the well, you could have avoided So you could have still did it and not agree. And not, and you would have skipped two and three and then get to the four, but you fleed, like you said, you didn't want to deal with it, you know what I mean? You didn't want to deal with him because you wanted what you wanted. But if you would have gone, yo, God, I know how you are, boom, boom, boom, boom, you could have had this dialogue from when he first told you to go arise. You know?

SPEAKER_00

I tell myself that all the time. All the time. You know what? God is good. I don't get it. Right, right, right. But you're good.

SPEAKER_01

That's what it is.

SPEAKER_00

So whatever you say, whatever you do, whatever you command is good. I'm the problem.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, that changed that changed my attitude.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm and I could do it, and what I'm getting from this, I think the the biggest thing I'm getting for this is like you could still be a problem, and I'm talking about the internal, whether it's your heart, your mind, your thoughts, your feelings, and still take steps of faith and obedience. So I could be in the room with my face scrunched up. I'm in the room though. Right. I'm not gonna run out and cast a trench to the next, to the next town to try to get away. Nah, stay in the room. Yo, be lemon facing the room. Yo, at least the Lord could come be like, yo, man, what's wrong?

SPEAKER_03

Why you angry? Why you angry and deal with you?

SPEAKER_00

But if you're not in the room, he's gonna be like, Yeah, yo, he's gonna say wind, go get him. You don't want the wind to come get you.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, you know, you know, yo, you know who it you know who I remind me of? Um knock you down. Yo, you know what I remind me of? I used to, when George first came to church, I used to be like that with George. Like George used to come to church and he used to just have this continence, like, like he was hard, you know. But George was there every week. Yeah, and that's the one thing I used to always commend about him and love about him. Like, cause I knew he was struggling with things. Like you could just see it on his continence, but he was there. He was like, Yo dog, I'm dead. Even to the point where he got baptized. I remember when he got baptized, he was like, You want to say nothing? He's like, nah, I don't say nothing. Everybody was waiting for him, you know, everybody says this, all this long thing. George was like, nah, I'm gonna do this. That's it. Dunked him got up, walked out, and I was just like, You ain't got no glorifying. But when I see George now, I'm like, yo, stop. But I saw this man consistently. Yeah, even though I might be in these, I might be a rough man in these hard places. Now when I see George, yo, he he beelines towards me, I beeline towards him, and it's like, but before when he first came, it was kind of like, I used to be like, does this guy even like me? You know what I mean? Like, yo, what's wrong with you, you know? But I watched him just be obedient. And the Lord worked on him to now where George is, you know, he's a big teddy bear now.

SPEAKER_05

And I'm actually a greeter at the church now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. They got him handing out, like, hey, good morning.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, you buy George shit.

SPEAKER_03

George is I never knew if he was awake or not.

SPEAKER_01

I used to just sit there, but he was just so obedient to just being around God's people. Right. He knew that's what he had to do. Whereas crazy, like you said, I even know George is agreed in that. He would be the last person you would think that would, but he's a he's a testament of obedience.

SPEAKER_00

Just continue to be obedient. What I'm getting is if Doug, it's inevitable. Change is inevitable when you actively remain obediently keeping the presence of God. Right. It'll come. It might take longer than others, right? It's not for us to judge a person's uh uh you know cadence and and but it's gonna happen, dog.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, B, that's where he screwed up. Yo, it then it hit me so hard.

SPEAKER_00

He let yo leave. Once you leave, the Lord is like, yo, where you at? Where you at? I can't deal with you.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, B, it remind me of Adam.

SPEAKER_00

He will prepare elements and animals to come get you.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, soon as Adam messed up, he yo B, you nailed it. And you know, when when I read it, because I knew he didn't he left because he didn't want to preach to the Nineveh. But in chapter one, it says he just flee from the presence of God. And God is like, I'm gonna do all of this just to get you back in my we'll we'll start this again. And then in verse three, he goes, Arise, go to we'll start again. Start again.

SPEAKER_00

That's where I left you. When you come back, I'm gonna be right here waiting for you.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm gonna give you the same command. And I'm gonna give you the same. Let's continue. Let's continue.

SPEAKER_00

You pause, you're watching the thing. And you pause and you come back, it says, resume. The Lord was like, all right, let's resume. He was like, Storm, C, seaweed. Well and that's the thing. You don't want the Lord to That's a commercial break, B. He will prepare things for you. And you think the fish care? The fish is not thinking about what he eats. Oh, I'm about to go swallow this guy. He don't care about what he eats. You think the wind they're obedient. They're obedient to the Lord. The Lord's like, yo, go get this guy. You're right. You don't want that. Yeah, B. Listen, stay in the presence. The Lord is more gracious than the wind.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

That's a great point. Yeah, dog.

SPEAKER_01

That's yo, now I understand when he flee from the presence of God.

SPEAKER_00

That's what we're saying. He dumbed out about that he could escape the presence of God. Like he was like, Y'all stupid for even thinking time. Nah, I mean, I see it. That's obvious in there, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know. Nah, dog. That's what it was. And if he had stayed in the presence, I think he would have got chapter four.

SPEAKER_00

I don't care if you're mad, do what I say. Yeah, he could give you the understanding after. And that's how a lot of times we just live our lives. We just have to be obedient. And later on, the Lord might give us, if he chooses, the understanding behind it, or the wisdom behind it, or the capacity behind it. But just be obedient. And the great thing is, he's the one that sees it. Like he could see the internal, he could see our eyes, he could see our motive. Like you can't see it, we can't see it. But the most important thing is that I know you're a work in progress. I know you're broken. I know where you came from.

SPEAKER_01

Right. I know exactly what's going on.

SPEAKER_00

Just stay going in that this one direction. Everything was gonna eventually work out towards the end.

SPEAKER_01

So you think animals attack is the Lord getting somebody's attention? Sometimes you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

Just on the on a temporal on a temporal level, um, where we see uh like where this takes place, where people can have faith and trust in things that's not dealing with God, and they don't question it. Like you how I mentioned, like, yo, just be obedient. You don't need to understand. God gives you a command, you just just follow it, and then maybe he'll give you an understanding later. You may 10 years down, like, yo, that's why he sent me there. Because like when you look at it, how many people drive cars? Everybody drive cars. You don't understand how the car really function. You don't know how the pistons and uh how the gas runs through the engine. You may understand it, but not everybody does. Same thing you, you know, flying on a plane. You know, okay, it goes up, lift or thrust or whatever, but you don't understand the inner working of the plane, but you get on and you trust that he's gonna bring you to your destination. And all these things that we see temporally, we just trust and do. But when it comes to God, you're telling no, why? Why should I go? Why should I do this? Yeah, and you start questioning everything, you know, and you don't trust him. The one who loves you the most and cares for you, you get in the car, the car might crash, it might fall apart, it might break down, but we rather trust the car before we trust God. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, the one one thing I see here too, the last thing is, and I don't think it's a coincidence that we did this book, but the same way that the the the stench of the wickedness of Nineveh was uh uh arose to the Lord, I feel like that wickedness here in the United States of America is also raising up. And just think as Christians how the Lord used someone who was reluctantly obedient. Can you imagine how he would use you know, if you had a genuine desire um to be obedient to him and faithful and getting the word of God out there? And we we we as Christians need to do better. Um we gotta get that word out there and and just pray for that revival. You know, can you imagine being in the midst of a revival? Right, and how our hearts would leap with joy knowing that all of these people, all of our friends, loved ones, family members, you know, have given their hearts to the Lord. So the stench is rising. You we look everywhere, social media, it doesn't matter where we look, the wickedness in America is at an all-time high. And we can be that light, man. So I I just beg my brothers and sisters in Christ to get out there and and start being obedient.

SPEAKER_01

And I I like I don't know if I mentioned it, but I think the revival, I think the Lord's heart is revival because we see it in Jonah. Like he's his heart is that none should perish. And I think we're close to revival. That's how I personally feel. But um I think we have to be prepared that revival is not gonna look like how you think it's gonna look. You know what I mean? Like the Lord is always wanting to do something new. We're in a new time, we're in a new generation. So I think revival is gonna look different because you have a lot of Christians who are setting their ways because they were raised a certain way, or they've seen things a certain way, or they've read books, and they think this is how revival is supposed to look. I don't think revival is gonna look the same, especially with social media, technology. You know what I mean? I think revival can happen very quick. We see how fast a hashtag could spread. You know, one hashtag, I've seen one hashtag turn the c whole country upside down. One hashtag. You understand what I'm saying? So uh it could be as simple as a hashtag on Twitter and social media, Facebook, and all of that, where revival hit and you'll see people just confessing Jesus Christ. It might not be in the streets, it might not be in your churches, it might be on YouTube, it might be on Instagram, it might be on Twitter, it might be on TikTok, it might be on these that's why these social media platforms, and the and the Holy Spirit could take it over. You know, he could take over it, and he don't need it for long, because like I said, that hashtag it it it hit, it happened real quick, a couple months, and it was over. You understand what I'm saying? So revival, you know, think people thinking this is the 1800s where revival gotta last uh 20 years or 15 years or even 10 years. Revival could could come in. And out in six months. You know what I mean? And the thing about it is, are you gonna be sensitive to it happening? Are you gonna be in your own world? Because that's what the internet allows us to do. You know what I mean? Be in your own world and kind of be separate. And you don't like something that somebody's saying, I'm gonna block everybody, and you block everybody and you create this own little space for yourself and you'll miss the whole thing. So as believers, we have to be sensitive to what we're seeing, what's going on. And I think this revival could come in and out. Couple hashtags. You see some YouTube videos, you see some prominent people start getting saved. They start spending the message, boom, boom, boom, and the Lord may like, yeah, this is it. And you don't even know, you know, half a million people get saved.

SPEAKER_00

Lord, feel free to use knowing part. I mean, that's why we did it. It's at knowing part. At knowing part podcast, Lord, feel free to use it. You'll be three people gonna get saved from knowing part, B. That's that's that's three parties in heaven, man. May the Lord use one of them. That's three parades in heaven.

SPEAKER_01

You're gonna see some somebody gonna do one little TikTok kind of yo, revival, big revival, and knowing part was like five hours, yo, Jonah. Real you get you get to the beam, you be like, yo, three people. That's what y'all got from from Kip. Oh, okay. I'll take it like this. I'll take it. But God is good, man.

SPEAKER_00

Any other any other thoughts?

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, I'm good. Yeah, this was a fun season.

SPEAKER_00

It always exceeds, like, whenever we start these books, it always exceeds expectations of what the Lord is gonna reveal. Like half the stuff like we kind of spoke about and went through, thought it was like just brand new stuff. Like learning in real time, totally separate from the personal study time or the personal time with God reading. Yes, right. Like, this is like, you know, it's like you get it three other folds, right? You get it, that's why you is like, oh, I got three folds. It's wild, and it happens all the time. Sometimes I'm like, ah, it's only four chapters, long as 17 verses. Ah, this is gonna be light. Yeah, right. And then Lord is like, oh, word? Holy Spirit is like, ah, it's like, oh, snap.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think Ralph said it. He was like, Yeah, Jones is my new favorite book. And he says, I says about he said, I said that about every book we read. And as um, yeah, and then and Pastor Julius used to say that. Like somebody told me he said that, he was like, Yo, what's your favorite book in the Bible? He said, the one I'm reading at the time, yeah. You know, and I and I'm there, yeah. It don't matter where I'm at. Like, even right now, my personal time, I'm going through Jeremiah and Exodus, and it's like, oh, so much is coming at me, you know what I mean? And it's like, oh, this might be my favorite book, but it's just because it's the word of God. That's it.

SPEAKER_00

You know, that's the reason we like our hearts is just to encourage people to read the book. Because it does, just like you brought up with you know the example of George, it does something to you. It does something to you, and it's hard to explain. Like, we could put it into words and theology, but you just have to experience it for yourself and just get into it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there's no way you can sit in the presence of God and you don't get changed. Something's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00

Something is going to happen to you. Guaranteed. Guaranteed to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01

Things get revealed to you. Yeah, yeah, B. That's what God is all about, revealing Himself to you. Yeah, all right, that was good.

SPEAKER_00

All right, man.

SPEAKER_05

So, Heavenly Father, Lord, we're just so grateful for another opportunity to come together as a group, uh, Lord, and to to read your word, to dissect it, to to hear from you. And we pray that those who listen to these episodes, Lord, that they would also be blessed. We pray, Lord, that you would instill within them just uh a passion to dive into your word in the morning, in the evening, Lord. Um may you use them to create a revival in their homes, in their workplaces, Lord. And um not until we step into eternity will we understand you know exactly what we're doing here, Lord. But we pray that you would just continue to allow us to do it. Um, continue to provide the resources, Lord, continue to lead us um in this ministry, Lord. So we're grateful for you. We're grateful for allowing us this platform. So bless it, and we bless your name. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen. Amen.

SPEAKER_00

And um the only way that you could be saved and not spend eternity in hell is by believing in Jesus Christ. That's the only way to salvation. Believe, baby. Believe in Jesus Christ. Amen.

unknown

But you went to yellow.

SPEAKER_01

I went early, you went to the top room where he had the all the um videos surrounding you.