Jonah The Preaching Prophet: KiP - Episode 115

The Lord wasn't finished with Jonah; He granted him a second chance to fulfill His will. The word of the Lord came to Jonah again, and this time he responded with obedience. Jonah rose, went to Nineveh, and delivered the word of God as commanded, and something remarkable occurred: the people of Nineveh believed in God.

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Um Jonah chapter three.

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Yes, sir. Yeah, we're moving along in this long book. Can't believe we can't believe we're more than halfway through the book, man.

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Yes.

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You remember when we did Genesis? PTSD.

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Stupid idea was to do Genesis. He's an idiot. Stupid idea was to do Genesis. He's an idiot. That was crazy, bro. Genesis was fun.

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Yo, but we went through Genesis. Yeah, man. Y'all gotta show us some love for that. Verse by verse, bro.

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Even read the names.

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Yeah, go find yourself a podcast that did that. Yo, y'all been taking.

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We did the two most important books, B. John and Genesis, dog. Everything else.

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Don't forget about moments, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Moments definitely.

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I mean, the three most important books, baby. Yeah, yeah. What else after that? I mean, we could basically retire right now. I think we did. A lot of people probably think we I think this is a guest appearance, man. I think we do a guest appearances now. We just pop up.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

We got some time today. Oh man. Um, yeah. So last week we were talking about uh Jonah's prayer. Um share?

SPEAKER_06 3:42

Now, was that his own psalm? Or was that bits and pieces of other songs?

SPEAKER_00 3:50

That was his prayer, but the style, you know, the style was almost poetic and just the imagery, a lot of stuff that he's saying is you know, probably things just like too.

SPEAKER_06 4:02

I think it's very juicy. But it was definitely his prayer. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Actually, each verse like was actually from like a psalm. A psalm. Like, you know, it was Psalm 120, I think Psalm uh actually I wrote it down like each each verse was actually alluding to one of the Psalms. Yeah. So show you that he knew the scriptures well. Wow. Because he didn't he didn't, I mean, in the belly of the well, he didn't have a Bible. He didn't have his scroll, he didn't have his scroll scroll. He didn't have the Bible app.

SPEAKER_06 4:34

So that show you how well versed he was. I mean, but that's awesome. Like he was praying scripture, right? Right. And that's something that I always tell myself, you know, learn scripture enough to pray it, you know, and I never really do.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

But that's that's how you pray in God's will, right? Yeah, you use his word, right? You use his words, oh God, you said this. You know what I'm saying? So that's definitely the standard of prayer. Yeah, not excluding, you know, Jesus' model that you know he taught with the Father's the Lord's Prayer. All right, I got a question.

SPEAKER_03 5:15

Do you think this was a near-death experience or do you think he died? Near death. Why would you say it's near death?

SPEAKER_06 5:25

And it was not actual died for a couple seconds, couple minutes, and got because I think verse 6 tells us that he says, Yet you have brought up my life from the pit, oh Lord my God. So to me, I feel like he saved him prior to him moving on.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

No, I'm not saying that he he like I mean, obviously Jonah was alive, but I'm talking about he died and then came back to life, like got resuscitated, but he was like, he he was probably dead for a couple minutes, maybe an hour, maybe a couple seconds, but experienced death. I don't like do you think that I don't think that.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

I don't think I don't think he died. I think I think the like the language that he uses, that expression um kind of describes you know his his uh situation. He was in dire straits, but if did he physically die? I don't believe he physically died.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

He was on the cusp of dying. What'd you think? What do you think, Ralph? I think he died. Why you say like some of the words like he um from verse two, he says, I called out the Lord out of my distress, and he answered me out of the belly of Sheol. He specifically used the word Sheol, and then um when you go into six, the it says at the roots of the mountains, I went down to the land whose bars closed upon me forever. And one of the times that they use the word bars is like I think it's in is actually in Job. Um I think it's Job chapter 17. When they use the word bars, he's actually talking about like you know, you know, Sheol closing his gates on someone. So I personally think that he actually died. And also with the illusion when crisis, this is the one miracle that I'm with the one sign is the sign of Jonah. You know, the three days in the belly. So I mean the things that, you know, it varies, it varies because the things that I've I've read the different scholars. There's some scholars that, you know, say that he didn't die, and there's other scholars that say that he did die. So you have, you know, varying opinions on this.

SPEAKER_06 7:42

Yeah, definitely. I mean, but the the word doesn't say that he died. We know that he was alive, he was spit out alive, right?

SPEAKER_03 7:51

No, I'm not I'm not saying that he wasn't alive. Like I said, it's obvious he died, but he died and they came back to life.

SPEAKER_06 7:56

What I'm saying is there's nothing here that is obvious to to make that an opinion in my so why even think that? Out of the belly of Sheol, she cried. But didn't you well, first of all, didn't you just say that all of these are previous Psalms that he's praying, right? So these were already scripture that he was praying. So it wasn't not, it wasn't necessarily it was how he was feeling at the time. It wasn't necessarily what happened to him. And um thinking of him being in the middle of the ocean about to die feels like hell. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 8:32

I think his feelings were that that's I just to me it's it's poetic expression, um, trying to you know use imagery to describe how he was feeling at the time. Um you know, I think David used those type of languages, you know, she's all like oh, I'm in the pits, where you know what I'm saying? So I don't think he died, I think he almost he was near death.

SPEAKER_06 9:01

I think him dying takes away from the fact that the Lord rescued him. I just feel like that would be greater.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Yeah, if he died and he brought him back to life. Yeah, if you think about it that way.

SPEAKER_06 9:13

I mean, if that was the case, I think it would be obvious here that he died and the Lord brought him back to life. I I don't think we would the Lord would want us to read between the lines and say, Did he die? Like to me, it's like the Lord rescued him, he almost died, he was about to like we talked about. He he thought that the only way to make things right between him and God was for him to die. But if we're seeing this as the grace of God, then the Lord saved him before he died. So, but that's just my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

What do you think? I I I think he did die. Like after reading it again and again, I don't know how long. What I what I look at it as is more, you know, you have so many stories about people who, you know, they'll tell you straight up and down I was clinically dead for let's say a couple minutes, couple seconds, however it was, and then they saw the white light. Like you've heard so many stories about that, and I think that's what he experienced. I think he experienced a point where, you know, I don't know how long it was for, maybe it was for a couple minutes, maybe it was a couple couple of seconds, but I think he did taste that because of his whole point, again, going back to three, is he wanted to get away from the presence of God. You know, that was his whole thing. I want to get away from your presence. And, you know, while I was reading that, I was like, you know, the only thing to me where you're totally away from the presence of God is being in hell. And for him to use the word, he said, I was out of the belly of Sheol, like he says it like, you know, that's where I cried out from. It's like, this is what you wanted. God gave it to you, and then you realize that's not what you really wanted, and you cried out. And again, I go back to just so many people have so many accounts of, you know, they tell you, you know, medically, clinically, I was dead for three minutes, for five minutes, for 10 minutes, however long it was. And then I, you know, I went, saw the white light, saw the gate, saw all these people, and da da da, they give you this account of, or they'll give you account of hell where they was in hell and they saw the devil and such and such, such and such, and they came back to life. You know what I mean? So I feel like that's what he experienced.

SPEAKER_06 11:30

So as the the word says to to be absent from the body is to be present with Christ. So as a believer, if he died, he would be in the presence of God. Okay, right? He wouldn't be in Sheol. No, right? No, he'll be in Abraham's Abraham's bosom.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Yeah, well, Sheol.

SPEAKER_06 11:48

Well, but that's not what he's describing here, is not him chilling in Abraham's bosom with the good guys.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

No, but the thing is that being in Sheol, remember like when we spoke about Sheol is divided into two places, right?

SPEAKER_06 11:59

Yeah, there's the the part where the fire.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Right, and then Abraham's bosom. Exactly. So that's the thing is that he's saying that he's in Sheol. Exactly. So that's that that's the general compartment. Right. Yeah, that's the whole thing. Yeah, that's the whole thing. You know, and he says this is what happened.

SPEAKER_06 12:14

He would be in Abraham's bosom. Right. So he wouldn't be experiencing.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

What's his describing out of the sight of God. Yeah, it's negative what he's describing. He's describing so I again I don't think he died clinically dead. I think you know he had his a real he got real close to dying. Okay. And he just experienced um something bad.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

No, I listen, I I mean, yeah, I see yeah, I see where people lean towards that. And the other reason why I towards, again, is like what Ralph said with you know him being the typology of Christ.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

I want to go to that. Let's go to that and read it.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

What? About the belly?

SPEAKER_00 12:57

Was it Matthew 12?

SPEAKER_03 12:59

Oh Christ.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

Yeah, Matthew 12. Because when you I apply that specifically to the time frame. Or just the three days, that's what he was saying, right? Because the situation was Jews coming up to him, like, oh, give us a sign, give us a sign. And this is right after he just uh delivers somebody from demonic possession. And he was like, Oh, this guy is is you know using the power of Satan to free people. And he's like, This is after he's fed the multitude. This is after he clearly was telling everybody who he is. Uh what is it? 12 and what?

SPEAKER_02 13:46

12 like 39, 38. Right. You want me to read it? What is that, Matthew's? Matthew's, yeah. Matthew's 12. I'm gonna I'm gonna start reading verse 38. It says, Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, Teacher, we want to see a sign from you. But he answered and said to them, An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

So that's that's the only part I apply to the typology is that time period of three days. So that's that's kind of like the sign. He's pretty much saying, listen, the sign that you're gonna get now is the resurrection. Because God is dealing in front of you guys now. And what else he connects with Jonah is like Jonah, who was in rebellion, went to Nineveh, and those guys got saved. Those guys believed. You guys got somebody, like you guys got somebody greater than Jonah. And you see, Jonah didn't do no signs, Jonah didn't do no miracles. And he was like, Yeah, I've been with you guys all this time during my ministry. I've done all these things. You have plenty of signs. You guys are just wicked. Well, he's an adulterous generation. You guys don't want to really believe. You want a spectacle. And he was like, and he compares that, like the people of Nineveh is gonna be looking at y'all on judgment day. So the only thing I take is is is the three days. Like that's the part that he focuses on, like to kind of tell them after three days, I'm gonna rise from the dead. So everything else, you know, Jonah was disobedient. Christ wasn't. Christ was obedient, perfect until the end. Jonah was outside of the will of God. Christ was so there's no other comparison except that three days, which he specifically says, and um, you know, obviously the deliverance through the word of God, through the truth, and you know, somebody lesser, them and them knowing the history, them knowing the history of Jonah, them knowing what happened, them having that record, and the people got saved based on less. And he was like, Y'all, the generation that was given the word that had this special position in ministry to evangelize to the world, I came like blood through you guys, and I'm here and you guys still, you know what I'm saying? So I I isolated just the three days. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

What do you think, Mike? I'm gonna save it for the wrap-up. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

I feel different, but I mean the the like the one thing like I'll I'll say in terms of um like like another reason why I say is the that he died in terms of like with in conjunction with um with the typology is that in 1 Corinthians 15 when he talks about um the gospel, right? Let me just read it.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

Um you at Matthew?

SPEAKER_02 17:42

No, no. I mean first, I mean first Corinthians, when he says, um, more of a brethren, first Corinthians 15, he says, moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preach you, which also you received, and which you stand by which also you are saved by if you hold fast um that word which I preach to you, unless you believe in vain. For I delivered you to you first of all that which I also received, that Christ died for our sins and according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures, right? So he said, according to the scriptures. Now, where do we have because this is he's writing before the New Testament? Well, he's he's like in the period of the New Testament. Now, where was it prophesied of Jesus' resurrection? Because we have his death, we have his burial in Isaiah 53 and tons of um scriptures, you know, Genesis 3.15. We got all these scriptures of his death, you know, and Psalms 22, of his crucifixion, and all that. Where will you go to show someone his resurrection in the Old Testament? Because he says, as it is written. Gotta go somewhere because this is where Paul is pulling it from. He's pulling that all of this was his resurrection, the three days and everything, that's in the Old Testament. So we have to be able to prove it to someone that all of that was written. Because you can't you can't use Isaiah 53, because it does not talk about the resurrection in Isaiah 53, it just talks about his death.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

And I see um I'll let's go through the chapter and I'll I'll agree with your point even more because I've seen something. Okay, let's go through the chapter. So Jonah 3. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:27

Now the word of the Lord came to Jonah the second time, saying, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and preach to it the message that I tell you. So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three-day journey in extent. And Jonah began to enter the city on the first day's walk. Then he cried out and said, Yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Keep going or we could talk about that. So the word of the Lord came a second time.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

I agree with you. This is when, yeah, the word of the Lord. It came to him the first time. He rebelled. I believed the Lord didn't deal with him. It was just straight actions. Yeah. Like chastisement, storm. Oh, you want to run away, storm. Oh, you want to keep acting up, yo, get thrown into the sea. Oh, you still want to, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yo, go to the depths of the sea. Like, I think everything was action, and I think this is when you know the word of the Lord came to him the second time. And then he hit him. He says, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city. You see, this time he leaves wicked. He leaves their wickedness out. You know, the first time he says, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cried against it, for their wickedness has come up before me. This time he says, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and preach to it the message that I tell you. So he leaves out the wickedness. You know, why do you think that's important? I think because the Lord was preparing Nineveh. He was, they were prepared, they were ready, you know. Like, if you like, you know, I think at this point, Jonah is ready to preach the message and Nineveh is ready to receive it. But why? So, huh?

SPEAKER_06 21:20

But why are they ready? I don't because remember we talked a little bit about things that had to happen in our own lives to be susceptible to be ready. So, what happened in Nineveh that makes them ready to hear the word? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Yeah, I don't think there's anything specific.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

All right. Well, I I read something where it says during that time, two plagues happened. Okay. During that time. So they went through two plagues, the city of Nineveh during 765 BC and 759 BC. Um, in 763, a total eclipse where the sun happened on June 15th. Where they had a total eclipse in the city. And, you know, um, these were considered sunshine. Of divine anger. It might, you know, again, there was the Lord, there was things happening supernatural in the city where people were like, something's going on. Okay, yeah. They realized something was going on. So if you go through two plagues and you go through a total eclipse where there's nothing but darkness, so I think it was, you know, and that's that's historical that happened in the city of Nineveh during the time of Jonah.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

So or it could have been natural things that they attributed to their because remember, they're pagan. Right, right. So they attributed certain things to you know their God. Another thing I read is, you know, they worship the god Dagon. Dagon, Dagon, which is a fish. Right, right. And imagine, you know, the Assyrians seeing a man crawl out of a fish, right? How that would have impacted that culture when people start talking and stuff like that. So ultimately, we know that it's the power of God.

SPEAKER_06 22:58

Um now you think that they saw him being spit out? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

I mean, I don't know, but maybe possibly. I I think it's something where he probably needed help. Three days, you're you're in the belly with the gastric acid. Like you're not coming out, but just brushing the body. Yeah, pretty sure yes.

SPEAKER_06 23:21

I mean, you probably if the Lord is in it, you could be. But what I'm saying, from what I was reading, that he was about 400 miles or so from the city where he was spit out. So whether or not so he had to journey three days so now to get to Nineveh, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

To get maybe to the center.

SPEAKER_06 23:42

Oh, wait, oh no. This is saying that the three-day journey is from one part of Nineveh to the side. Yeah, yeah. But don't it doesn't say where exactly he was spit out. Like, we don't know that. I think it just said dry land. Yeah, it was the shore. It was dry. I mean it's the shore.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

At the shore. Yeah, yeah, it would be the shore.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

It has to be a coastal area in order for the fish to get there. And then whether he came out, but assistance, maybe somebody saw him took him in. Yo, you need some food, you need some clothes. Like, we don't know.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

But he got out and And also think about the like the way he does he looked. He had to look because the gastric acid, I'm pretty sure, because they said that like um the history of like that guy James Bartley, the the people that were taken out of the fish, the gastric acid will strip you of your your skin tone and all that. So he would have looked, your hair is completely gone, so no eyebrows, no hair, no, and you know he looked like powder. Right, you know, completely powder.

SPEAKER_03 24:39

I just gave my age the powder. He looked like Casper the friendly ghost coming towards you. Yeah, so you know, or when Dave Chappelle plays the crackhead. Oh man. No, but that's that's something that just pointed out to me because I think the the spirit is pointing that out to be like, you know, um revival, salvation is coming, and I think it's just preparing it because it's you know, for you to leave out he said it was a great city, so to the Lord he realized that Nineveh was a great city, but to leave out the part of their wickedness and everything, it's a great part of the city. Yeah, that was just that's just something that pointed out to me when I read.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Yeah, I didn't even notice that because it says great city twice in this chapter.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

He says it to the T, Arise, go to Nineveh. He says the same thing, that great city, and then he leaves out the wickedness and all of that. He just says, This is he just says, Go preach the message that I tell you. So now it's like he recognized Nineveh, he gave uh Jonah the marching orders, and then he's like, I mean, arise, and then he's like, Okay, here's the message. You know.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

So this in verse 3 should have been in the first chapter, right? Yeah, Jonah was probably. He should have listened. Yeah, I should have listened the first time. But he did, he followed orders. Now he's doing what the Lord told him to do. So he went and he proclaimed the message that the Lord gave him. Right? So they were 40 days away from judgment. 40 days more, and Nineveh will be overthrown. So that's how close, that's how close they were to the you know, the tipping point. Yep. 40 days.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Imagine how many years the Lord sat there and watched them go crazy and go buck wow, and 40 days, like, and it it shows again, like the Lord is um he's patient because his desire is that nobody should perish. And even like he's like, 40, I'll let y'all rock, and then 40 days before it, I'm still I'll give you one last shot. 40 days before it. Like at 40 days, you think about all the years they've been doing what they're doing, you're like, man, they never gonna change. Right. You know what I mean? That's how you would think, and that's how Jonah, his mind frame was like, these people's been wicked, like they'll, you know what I mean? And it's like, but 40 days, yo, be that that's the Lord, be to the very last. That's why I feel like even with Noah, I think till the door closed, he was out there telling people to get on that boat. So and he said 40 days.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

See, I love how the Lord is so consistent. All right, he is very consistent in what he does to the very end.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Yes and did we read five?

SPEAKER_03 27:36

No. No, so we're gonna read five to what? To ten. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:41

Okay. So the people of Nineveh believed God, proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth from the greatest to the least of them. Then word came to the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne and laid aside his robe, covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. And he caused it to be proclaimed and published throughout Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles saying, Let neither man nor beasts, herd nor flock, taste anything. Do not let them eat or drink water, but let man and beasts be covered with sackcloth and cry mightily to God. Yes, let every one turn from his evil way and from the violence that is in his hands. Who can tell if God will turn and relent and turn away from his fierce anger, so that we may not perish? Then God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way, and God relented from the disaster that he had said he would bring upon them, and he did not do it.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

That's amazing. He used he just preached eight words, and he said, he just said, yo, 40 days in this place is dunzo. Just eight words. And you know, the thing that I that I that that I liked is that he didn't even speak to the king. He said the word reached. I like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

So was he like walking through the town? And yeah, and repeating that disgruntledly, yeah. Right. Yeah, I know, right?

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Right, right, disgruntled, right, right. And then people went and told the king was like, yo, there's this crazy, yeah, bleached out, hairless dude saying that the God is about to destroy us.

SPEAKER_06 29:40

But the it looks like the people had had made that decision first, right? To do that. And what's dope about that is then it reached the leadership. And I think in our country, is it the people that have to change first before the leadership gets a hold of the revival, right? A lot of us we're always praying for our leaders and wanting them to change, but it's it's us, it's our personal walks that change that will change the leadership. Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Yeah, that's great. That's solid. They always say like revival starts with you. Exactly. Yeah, you don't draw a circle around yourself.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

And they showed it, you know. It says the people believe and then proclaim the fast. It wasn't just talk.

unknown 30:23

Right.

SPEAKER_03 30:23

You understand? It says they proclaimed the fast and they put on sackcloth from the greatest to the least of them. So it wasn't just talk, there was action behind it. Like true repentance. True repentance is not just talk, there has to be fruits, and the fruits was the fasting and the sackcloth. You know, so that's how you know this was a true repentance that was coming from these people.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

And you know, just just the power and God's word. Yes, that's He preached what God told him to preach. Yes. And we see the power in that, and we we understand that even faith is imparted by God. So that whole that the people believe is all the glory is is is God's. Like He did that, like He uh You know poured His great grace out on Nineveh, a bunch of wicked people. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 31:19

And and one of the things I also like is that um, you see, yeah, and he performed no miracles. And I think that's one of the things that kind of like Jesus was alluding to is like yo, like faith based on miracles is not a saving faith. Faith has to be based on the word of God and trusting him at his word, right? That's saving faith. So you gotta trust his word, and they trusted his word by you seeing the action following it. They actually put legs to their faith. You've seen it because it was based on his word.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Yep, they heard and they believed.

SPEAKER_06 31:53

Yeah, and then you you wonder like why such a a prideful nation who everyone feared would so quickly, you know, remove the pride and basically drop to their knees. And then, you know, what Mike mentioned just it made sense, yeah, you know, that the Lord was working in them and those natural disasters was grace, you know, preparing you, you know, and and and that's the reason why like you think that we need to clarify what I was saying the other day about needing, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 32:27

You know, well, I mean, well, what we talked about, I think it was two weeks ago, about things needing to happen in your life before you hearing the gospel message and you receive it. And we we talked about um you everybody's walk is different, right? So it's not like you need to do the things that I did before the Lord worked in my heart, but there has to be things that soften your heart, right? And and we go through things. The Lord allows things to happen. There may be a death in the family, there may be sickness, there may be you losing your job. Things like that happen in order to soften your heart so that when the gospel, the seeds are you know spread to you, they they they become implanted in that soil. That fertile ground. That fertile ground. And and that's what the Lord uses. So if you don't know God and you find yourself in a place where you feel surrounded by deep waters, you feel surrounded by darkness, those are things that's grace, that's the grace of God drawing you closer to him because he's the only way out of that darkness, right? So when you hear the gospel message, accept it, believe, you know, and the Lord will come in and he will, just like Jonas says in chapter two, he brought him out of that pit, out of feeling as if he was in hell. And the Lord can do that for anyone out there who's listening.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

I like yo, what you said is yo, Angela's straight on point about the leaders. I think about this country, and I think about countries, period. Like, this is exactly how it happened here. Cause you know, like the Lord has been putting on my heart revival, revival, but it started with the people, word got to the king, and then he made it law. You understand what I'm saying? He made it law, like nah, this is a decree. This is what's now everybody's under it. You know what I mean? So even if you felt like, uh, I don't know, you're on the fence, nah, now the leadership officially made it law. You know, and it's like what you were saying, like it starts with us, you know, as the people. Once the people start changing their hearts, the leaders is gonna have to, like, if you don't roll with the people, you're gonna get out. You're gonna get kicked out. You understand what I'm saying? So it's like the leader, you know, he saw what the the king saw what the people was uh going through, like the revival happening. He hopped on, he got off his throne, laid his robe aside, it hit him, but it's just, it wasn't just, it didn't just stay there. It he made it law to not affect the whole land. You know, and it's so important, like even with our leaders, like people that's in government and all of that. Like you said, like us as believers, like we gotta make, we gotta make our voices heard. Like this is how we feel what's going on. Like you can't be, you can't shy away from the issues that you know everybody's talking about all these political issues. If you're a believer and you have a certain stand on something, you have to say it. You have to vote that way, you have to be that way, you have to express that way, so it could affect the leadership and get to a point where it becomes law and yeah, you know, even a decree or even where it's publicly spoken on a big platform, you know, where this is how me as a leader, this is how I feel because this is how the people I represent feel, and it's gonna affect you know, but it's crazy. I'm reading it now and I'm like, yo, dog, it happened just like that, like you said.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

And you know, it's awesome. Just to add to that point, um, to see how we've seen a clear example of it, um, is that like change really starts at the grassroot level, right? Like the whole idea, like, I mean, how the emancipation proclamation came about with with um um Lincoln, it wasn't that he just woke up and decided, oh, I think slavery is bad and we need to, you know, we need to abolish it. The whole abolition movement started with one woman, Harriet Beecher Stowe, a white woman, young girl, who was the daughter of a minister of a preacher, and she saw that slavery was wrong, and she wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin. And it spread through the community, and they started realizing, yes, slavery is wrong as white folks we should not be mistreating black people. And then as people's hearts were changing from her book and from her talking to people in the neighborhood and the community, the word went got to Abraham Lincoln, and Abraham Lincoln met her. This little lady, here's this six foot six president, meaning this little tiny little five-foot. And he said to her, like, you are the little woman that's been causing this, you know, upheaval in America. And that's where the Emancipation Proclamation came about because he encountered her and he's like, Yo, we need to do something. But it started with people's hearts from a born-again Christian. You know what I'm saying? Nah, it hit me, it hit me hard. And it reached all the way to the presidential office, and this is how the you know abol the abolitionist movement started. That's exactly right. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Yeah, I I heard of that, but just the way you broke it down and how it's so applicable to what we're reading, and how uh uh you know, uh a jurisdiction or nation or a town could change. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Nah, that that that that was crazy.

SPEAKER_06 37:58

And it's it's it's awesome that you know, re revival, you know, it started with obedience, right? Obedience and being faithful and and and and faithful preaching of God's word. And we we don't see faithful preaching of God's word uh too too often here in in America. Um and I think that that that's where it's gonna change, right? Within the church, like we're talking about, within the church body, that's where we have to become obedient in our lives, our day-to-day lives. We don't realize how our disobedience is affecting other people around us. We were selfish to the point where we just think it's it's between me and God. But if your walk is not where it needs to be, then the people around you are going to suffer, whether you know it or not. You're not gonna be able to bless them with gold nuggets that you studied that morning. If you're not studying that morning, you know what I mean? So this is where the revival comes with obedience and being faithful in the things you do for the Lord.

SPEAKER_03 39:01

We've seen it with Jonah, his disobedience almost got everybody killed. You know what I'm saying? But his obedience is what brought a whole city to revival.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

Yeah, and you know what, and that's the biggest problem where you see a lot of people where they, you know, where you hear the term victimless crime, you know, there was no crime, or you know, what I do in the privacy of my bedroom, or you know, I watch pornography, it's not hurting anybody. It is. Your sins are hurting not only you, but the people you love, right? Your family, your neighborhood, like it destroys people. There is no such thing as a victimless crime. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? It it destroys. Jonah is a perfect example of that. No, yo, I read this. Um I saw this crazy quote. It was by the guy named Alexander Tyler. As you guys were talking about nations, he said that I don't know if you guys ever heard of the cycles of a nation. You've heard you've heard of that? No, I never heard of it. So, with this cycle of a nation, he goes like um initially goes from bondage to spiritual faith, and then it goes from spiritual faith to great courage, then he goes from great courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, and then from dependency back again to bondage.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

So, where do you think we at?

SPEAKER_02 40:26

I I think right now we're we're teetering between apathy to dependency and going towards bondage.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

I think that dependency. You think we're in and entering that dependency. I think you're right.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

You know, I think it was all set up for the antiquity.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Um not particularly. I just think that you know, the cycles if you look at the history of America, like it fits.

SPEAKER_06 41:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

You know what I'm saying? And now we're in a a time where people feel entitled to certain things. People would rather get universal basic income instead of working. Right. That's that's and that's exactly right. You know, this this idea where you're dependent on the government owes me.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

Well, that's what I'm saying. You don't feel like that's like the beginning of setting it up for the Antichrist because that's how he's gonna come, where he's gonna want to be worshipped. He wants everybody's gonna, he's gonna want to be bowed down to, it's gonna be centered towards him. Yeah, I think that's right. You understand what I'm saying? So, like you said, I totally agree with you. Like, you know, one one world government, one religion, one all of this one, one, one, is just to center it back to Satan, you know, because that's what that's that's that's oh that was the the goal at the end of the day. He wanted to be like the most high God, he wanted to be above God.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

Because he wants to lead to that bondage, right? Right, and breaking out of that bondage is what? Spiritual faith.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

Spiritual faith.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

That's the only way you could break out of that bondage, and then you get into this point where you know the um the blessing, or which one was that?

SPEAKER_02 42:23

The spiritual faith to great courage and then great courage to liberty, then liberty to abundance.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

The abundance that'd be jacking people up.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Yeah. Yeah. Because you don't point it back to God, you think that you bring it back to self.

SPEAKER_00 42:36

Life gets good, right? Let the beat cake, you know. Because you you're so how many steps removed from the spiritual part that you forget, not realizing it's the spiritual that got you out of this bondage, right? And then you slowly start to forget, and you just end up right back into bondage. Right. So now I definitely see the dependency part, man. And it's whether it's dependency on drugs, social media, oh, it's just a world of people developing these dependencies on things. Where people aren't able to even cope, or I was I was watching this thing where this guy just with a camera came to this girl and like, oh, are you happy? Just asking if she's happy, and she was like, No. And then she just starts talking about how she's unhappy and she's depressed, and I'm just looking at her, I'm like, just like this young girl, no joy, no hope, just nothing. And she was like, Yeah, when I feel like that, I just go and drink and wait for my friend. And I don't like drinking because I know it's bad, but that's the only way I could deal. So now you're dependent on you know, substances to try to just make you feel regular, make you feel normal, you know. Lot of people are suffering from that. Like we you know, they'll throw uh mental health, like whatever that means, they they throw those things out there. Um, and there are people that are really suffering from mental health that I think you could diagnose and and treat and measure, but a lot of people are just dealing with hopelessness, man. Godlessness and after a while it'll it'll mess you up. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 44:29

Yeah, we as Christians, man, like you said, hopelessness, we have to be uh like hope dealers, you know what I mean, to the world and let them know that there is hope. And they have to see that hope in us, you know, and if we're not living lives where we are as Christians exuding that, you know, something has to change in your personal life. If when you walk in these streets, people don't see the the light of Christ in you, you know. That's our job. Um, you know, back to the scripture here. I love, you know, as a veterinarian, I love how even the they made they made the animals wear the sackbroth, you know what I mean? And they even it said even the animals were fasted. Like they was like, don't let them taste or drink anything, you know. So I thought that that is just such a testament of their the desperation in them to get right with God, right? And what we read earlier, we talked about like with with your with the soul fainting. Like, I I I picture their souls fainting, hearing that you have 40 days to live, right? Like, can you imagine God telling you you have 40 days to live? Like, if your soul don't faint at that point, and I love at the end of verse in verse 9, it says, Who can tell if God will turn and relent and turn away from his fierce anger so that we may not perish? There was no guarantee that the Lord was gonna have mercy on it, right? Right, you know what I mean? But and you have prideful people that will be like, Oh, if I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna go out the way I want to go out. You know what I mean? These people, you know, that's that's the opposite of of what they were they were exhibiting. And I I think that that's so amazing how the Lord had mercy on this group of wicked, evil people.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

You you know, it's I I really appreciate when you said the animals as a veterinarian. You know why? Because when you said that, because then they said not neither the beast nor herd nor flock to eat, right? Is that this is what you're seeing. I'm I'm looking at it as like that childlike faith. Because they don't know nothing about this God. You know what I'm saying? They've been rooted in paganism and serving Dagon and all their other idols, so they don't know anything about the true and living God. So there's like, yo, I don't know anything, but I'm gonna believe, have that childlike faith. I don't know if the animals could sin and cause us to not receive murder. You get what I'm saying? It's that childlike, because you know how kid children's like, is my puppy gonna go to heaven? Right. Or is you know what I'm saying? It's that childlike faith. We're just gonna believe and we're gonna do whatever it takes to, you know.

SPEAKER_03 47:15

Yeah, we're not gonna, we we're not gonna um guess. Yeah, we ain't gonna take no chances and guess if it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 47:21

And look at look at verse 10. It says, God took note of what they did. Right, that they turned from their evil ways.

SPEAKER_03 47:30

Yep, you know what I'm saying? Like, like God, their works. It wasn't just talk, right?

SPEAKER_06 47:35

He saw what they were doing. I love it, like to me, them, you know, making the animals not eat, like to me, that's the equivalent of like rich people burning their money. Because that was their their livelihood. That's the way they live. That's if they if they have no food source, right, they're gonna die regardless. You know what I mean? So if their animals perish because they're not feeding them or whatever. So they literally, like you said, they didn't take any chance. They were like, if we're gonna die, we're gonna die doing this the right way to this God. You know what I mean? And if we all had that, you know, like if I'm gonna live for God, I'm gonna live for God the right way. I'm not taking any chances on how I walk with the Lord, you know, and uh, we could learn some things from Nineveh, right? You know, from the their attitude, their repentance. Um, but yeah, man, that that's that's what I saw.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

And I think that's probably the greatest miracle in this book. Like when you're talking, oh, it's Jonah and the fish. Is every everything's about the fish to fish? It's the revival, bro.

SPEAKER_03 48:38

It's the revival, it's the revival. Yeah, um, going back to what we were talking about with the resurrection, the reason why I see that is because, okay, so when we read chapter one, when we get to 17, it says, Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights. And like you were saying, you know, Christ was pointing that towards his death. You know, so we see Jonah, you know, that that was supposed to signify his death. Like being in that fish three days, three nights. When we read his prayer, we get to verse 10, it says, So the Lord spoke to the fish and it vomited Jonah on dry land. Same thing like with Christ. The grave couldn't hold him. You know what I mean? It's like the grave had to spit him out because it couldn't hold him, because he was righteous. You understand what I'm saying? And then when you get through chapter 3 and you get to the end, then God saw their works and they turned from their evil way. So it's like I'm seeing this typology of Christ. You know, when he died three days in the grave, the grave spits him out, you know, and he represents, you know, um, the resurrection represents that he died for everybody's sin. And through that, salvation comes in this in this verse 10. So we're seeing it, verse 17, we're seeing the death, verse 10, and the last the last verse in chapter 2, we're seeing the resurrection, and the last verse in chapter 3, we're seeing salvation. And that's how I see the gospel is represented here. Exactly how Christ had to die, he had to resurrect, and through his resurrection, salvation came through everybody. And how did he die?

SPEAKER_02 50:20

He was, you know, innocent blood, thrown into the hands of man, into the water, death, so death was swallowed up in victory, spit out, whole nation, like, and a Jew had to die, you know, the for the nations to be saved. But was he an innocent man? No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_03 50:43

And that's and that's that's the thing for them to say that, right? That's how I'm seeing this, like what Christ when why why like what Ralph said, Christ used Jonah as far as, you know, um, that's the sign that I'm gonna give you with Jonah. And it's crazy how we read it again, he was like, I'm gonna use Nineveh as as witnesses to Yah, because Nineveh truly repented, you know, so salvation really came to the nation of Nineveh. But reading it, you know, like I said, I was reading it over and over again, but this is how I saw it. Like you're seeing the death here and at the end of chapter one, you know, um him being vomited out. That's the resurrection, and through the and after the resurrection, you see salvation came to this whole city. So you're seeing the the gospel message right there.

SPEAKER_00 51:31

Yeah, no, I I agree with that typology. I just don't know how far to extend it.

SPEAKER_03 51:37

No, no, no. I yeah, yeah, you like but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:40

I mean everybody's I think the I think the purpose is to look for Christ in every book. And I think that's what it is. You know what I'm saying? And this clearly it's super easy because Christ referenced Jonah, right? Right, right, but you know, when I read it to me, it's the time frame, right? That and he's referencing a story that all of them should be familiar with. So maybe pulling those imageries that we're seeing, they were able to also do the same thing. But you know, to me specifically, Christ was like this time frame of three days, being dead for three days, and then resurrection, that's gonna be the final sign you guys are gonna get. No, and I totally agree with you. Yeah, and that's why, and that's why I see it.

SPEAKER_03 52:30

Yeah, that's why I see it. Because it's like before, like I said, I've read Jonah so many times, I went through it just like, you know, you know, Rebellious Prophet, Revival, that's what I've always saw. Right. But just reading it now again and again, I'm starting to see, just like how we went through Ruth, the Kingsman Redeemer, you know, that's like you're seeing it, like you're seeing Christ to the point. And that's the only reason that I feel like with the um, you know, I think I shouldn't say I feel, but I think I don't want to be in my feelings, but always in your feelings. But yeah, you know, that's why I think to that point of, you know, him the deaf and chi yo, like them using these words is not, it's just not for nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, and it's not when you until you said it that first episode where you was like, he wasn't innocent. I'm like, so then why call him innocent? I think the Holy Spirit was putting those things in there for us, where we're here now, who have the whole completed word of God, now we're able to see Christ so clearly. Right. You know, so like so when you said innocent, I was like, you're absolutely right. Why would he say innocent? It's because he's that typology. Right. You know, you're seeing the typology, Jesus understanding that. But the vomiting up out of the fish after the prayer, I'm like, that that's now I get why you was like the resurrection, you know? And then after you after I read that, I was like, the end of three salvation comes. That's exactly how the gospel happened. It's through the death, the burial, and the resurrection of Jesus Christ, that salvation came to all men. And you're talking about the Gentiles here, and you're talking about the Jews. This this is the only book that you're seeing this revival happening with a whole Gentile nation.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

And and the awesome things that, as you're saying that is the the tremendous rebelliousness of Jonah is a picture of how the Jews rejected Christ. Right. And then the gospel went to the Gentiles, went to the Gentiles. So it's a picture of like even seeing all this and doing all this, he still rebelled and he had the law, he had the full, he understood who God was, and he still rejected and rebelled. And that, and then you see, because he refused to repent, but then the Gentile repented like that. Like that.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

And we see we saw it in both instances. We saw it on the ship, right? And we saw it with Nineveh. And what's crazy is the Lord is like pursued Jonah all the way through. It's crazy that you said he pursued Jonah all the way through because like like what you read earlier, the nation of Israel has to bring this. This is how it has to happen. It goes through Israel that all nations be blessed. Even if you guys are rebellious, that's my will, and it's still gonna happen. I'm gonna make it happen. Right. You understand what I'm saying? Like, like, and that's how I'm looking at it now, where it's like, yeah, Jonah could have, it could have gone through somebody else. The Lord is like, yeah, I could have chosen, but I'm I'm trying to prove a point here that through the nation of Israel, salvation is gonna come through to the world. So it's like, dog, it's it's after reading it just now, I'm like, yeah, it's clear. The type of the gospel is there.

SPEAKER_00 55:35

Some great points. Nah, I see it.

SPEAKER_03 55:38

Yeah. All right. God's mercy, baby. He loves all of us. And then chapter four, you know, something else I see. We'll wait until then. Don't want to spoil it. Got the people want the people to come back. You know, they're like, oh, yeah, I just said everything. And yeah, all right, so I don't have to watch the I don't have to listen to the other stuff. Yeah. No, no, no, y'all gotta come back. I got some other I'll save it. We could get the listens and the views. Amen.

SPEAKER_06 56:16

Alright, man. So wrap.

SPEAKER_00 56:20

So what was uh what were the people in Nineveh doing? Child like uh they were childlike faith.

SPEAKER_03 56:30

Child like faith. What? Uh the sackcloff on the animals.

SPEAKER_00 56:34

No, damn, you guys said it. Not taking any chances. Oh, okay. Um, yeah, if you're if you're listening to this right now, maybe you're feeling you know, lost, you're feeling despondent, you're feeling something, and if this is resonating to you, maybe you shouldn't take a chance. Because maybe you're like, okay, these guys are talking about the gospel, these guys are talking about Jesus Christ who died for the sins of mankind, and that salvation is only through him. There's no other name under heaven that man could be saved.

SPEAKER_03 57:18

You don't know, man. You can only got you can only have 40 days left, B. After hearing this message, man.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

So, um, yeah. You know, we all got to the point where we we didn't want to take any chances or um and you know the gospel message is is simply believing in Jesus Christ and um you get to spend eternity with him in heaven and not be separated eternally in hell from him. God is good. Everything that he does is good, we just don't understand it sometimes. Um and he he gave up everything so that we can have everything. So if you don't want to take that chance like we did, just um during your private time, or you could just along with us just confess your faith to Jesus Christ and believe, and that's as simple as that.

SPEAKER_06 58:21

And one thing that I would add too is not only for the unbelievers, but for the Christians out there, you may have 40 days left with the uh living in that disobedient lifestyle that you currently living in until the Lord sends that whale. So get right, man, because the Lord, look what the Lord can do through people who are faithful and obedient to him. Like you could be that person that the Lord wants to use to strike revival, yeah. Maybe just in your household, right? Not even just in your neighborhood or or America, but the Lord might want to use you to save your house, right? So you may have 40 days on that clock before the Lord is fed up with you, man. So so come back home, man.

SPEAKER_03 59:12

And I like to add, if you in the belly right now, you might your 40 days might have been up or whatever, and the fish had to come. Yeah you know what I mean? And you ran and the storm came and you got thrown off the ship, and right now you in the belly, cry out. You know, if you're hearing this right now, cry out. That's all the Lord, that's what the Lord wanted from Jonah from day one. You know, you know, it's if Jonah cried out, you know, it wouldn't even have got this far, but that's what you know, he didn't want to do that. So if you're in the belly, cry out. If you're in the sea, cry out. If you're in the storm, cry out. Wherever you're at, cry out. You know, that's what the Lord wanted. And just like what Jonah said in his prayer, the the Lord heard him. Amen.

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